Michael Jacskon (OT)

[Vdrummer]

I disagree. If you've ever served on a jury, you'll understand that the subtleties may be beyond the abilities of some of the jurors to understand. You don't need a triple digit IQ for jury duty. I believe we're all entitled to an opinion. Do you believe OJ was innocent? Or don't you have an opinion on the matter?

[Vdrummer]

If he'd been found guilty, I heard that Michael had requested that his lawyer's make sure that he served his time in "Juvie".

[Jean-Paul]

I agree with Randy, the man is / was a good songwriter, singer and performer. I still love the album Thriller and Bad. But I consider it at least strange that after a previous "incident" he is still sleeping with kids. Doesn't it make him innocent / stupid / guilty or all? Especially with so much money involved you are an easy target and he should have known better. I have two children myself and I will never let them sleep in someone's bed with that person next to them. I read in the Dutch newspaper that they will introduce a tracing system for convicted people in these kind of molestation (word from CNN) or worse cases in New York and also, Jeb Bush seems to have legalized a law for it? It's tough but I totally agree with it although I got these opinions since I have kids. Sorry for taking this point of view, but I love my kids and want to protect them as much as I can.

[Shawn40]

No surprise here, like OJ Simpson...

[Klemme]

I don't know wether to judge if he's been molestating these kids or not. To me, it's not a concern that keeps me occupied most of the day.

I do however find MJ's mind completely divided into to two worlds, you can hear this guy talk about music, politics, history, economy and religion like he's a professor. When it comes to Children and Childhood he becomes a totally different person. To be grown up as a star, where you have no time alone, no time to wonder about things, no child friends out of family etc. I sure find it normal to have a pretty wierd mind about specific things.

I attended the 1997 Concert in Copenhagen. I was sleeping outside in 2 days to come up in the front - and i must say, to this day, that concert was the most inspiring and thrilling concert i've ever seen. His dance moves are so musical he controls the arrangement of the tune like a big band drummer controls a big band, with pure sheer musical choreography( Mispell?).

The following concert, i didn't had the opurtunity to go, but a good girlfriend from my class was in backstage because she was a part of the "Heal the world show" were he's walking with kids on stage.

She talked with him backstage and told him about me, drumming and Dancing ( I was pretty much into his dance moves too ). He told her that it was very important for me listening to his Thriller album, because the best influence to drumming comes from that album, it was the album that out from a drumming perspective satisfy him the most. He ended with " Get everything with Jeff Porcaro on ".

She'd even brought back an autograph for me!

Go buy the Michael Jackson Collection Box, and put on the Dangerous Tour DVD, and you'll forget about all this media freak-show and just surrender yourself to the greatest show on earth.

I'm very supportive about Michael, but even if he was guilty i dont't know what to think. It happens alot today, some adults are =()/"#?=(/)"#? Insane, take a look at developing countries like India, Indonesia, Burma etc. Child-prostitution is the only way out of a doomed life as a poor rural family.

I guess my perspective will change when/if i have kids myself.

[Shawn40]

I'm a big MJ fan, his music, the musicians he hires, there he's a God for me !!!

But it's not the purpose here...

[Suspiria]

I am not surprised this topic would be started, so I'll add my thoughts. I was also amazed at the amount of media coverage this trial received. In an attempt to really understand what is going on I actually did a lot of reading from many sources that were not out to start rumors but cover solid facts.
It soon became very clear to me that the accusing family (mother and children) is desperate for money, wants to get a piece of Jackson's cake, and in my opinion, needs serious help. As I read yesterday out of roughly 140 witnesses, maybe 3 or 4 were said to be credible! From the on I knew that he would set free.
What's important now is this:
Jackson MUST keep his mouth shut about the issue and let it die. No more comments about children needing more love.
And the accusing lawyer...what a creepy guy. I must admit that I was thrilled since he was humiliated and suffered a huge defeat.
I really hope the public accepts the verdict and there will be no more questions. The accusing family managed to ruin this man's life.

PS: Anyway, Michael released "Thriller", you can't put him in jail! [img]cool.gif[/img]

[cjbdrm]

Being found "not guilty" in a court of law does not mean he's innocent. It only means that the prosecution wasn't able to convince the jurors beyond a reasonable doubt.

I love Michael Jackson the musician, dancer, and entertainer. But he's a very troubled individual.

In his mind he's a curious 11 or 12 year old boy that likes to do boy things, but also happens to be homosexual.

This won't change anything. He'll just have his guests sign release forms.

I say we put the stupid parents on trial.

[got_a_matchgrip]

Of course, none of us really know...but man, the circumstancial doesn't look good AT ALL. But no one should ever be convicted on this, just the facts of EVIDENCE only.

What I find puzzling is that the average peep cannot differentiate a person's talent or work from something such as this. IOWs, there are somne people who are so enamored w MJ's music, fame, fortune, & personna/image, that they would have that fact blind them to some obvious observances: that this 'man-child' is in need of some real psychiatric therapy.

Do you see him? He's starting to resemble Jack Nicholson's Joker character in the 'first' Michael Keaton Batman movie. I mean, we poke a little fun at the 80s glam-girlie-posers w all the hair & make-up, why is MJ afforded the exemption? Seriously, folks, when need for attention & success gets to the point that you try drastically to alter your heritage & your physical features [i said, drastically], not to mention tons of makeup, that it is quite obv that there are some real issues at work here.

It's obv to me the man has been out of his tree for quite a while. And we're not talking about your normal "diversity" or "differences" between people, here. I mean, just LOOK at him. They don't call him Whacko Jacko for nothing. Does that make him a CM? No, but....MJ, care for kids the proper way, via the setting up of or involvement in programs, tutelage, & other healthy things; not the way he's been dong it.

Because this behavior is sure to bring out the golddiggers also...MJ, change your MO.

It's obvious to me he's an emotionally repressed or troubled individual. And i too liked much of his music. But he needs help.

Oh, 1 more thing..."I think the Jackson team did their job in mudding up the waters, so I guess we may never know if he was guilty or not" - talk about yer creeps -
A guy like J Cochran may very well be one of those in the long line at the entrance to hell. Just an educated observation. He's a full o BS arsehole who knows the loopholes in the law, AWA that the average jury member can easily be swayed by courtroom acrobats & spin - sorry, JMHO over the years. I bet he doesn't have OJ in the morning with his breakfast...he appears the type of guy that $$ obv takes precedent over justice. That is a bad, slippery slope for ALL OF US. Allwoing injustice anywhere is an affront to justice EVERYWHERE.

MJ's dodged another bullet. Let's see what he does with it this time. Time will tell...just rem, no one is is guilty until proven; but likewise, people shouldn't make allowances for the famous or wealthy actors, musicians, & "entertainers" [DiOrio, Holdsworth, & Scott Henderson's FAVE word! [img]wink.gif[/img] ], that just because of this fact or that they aare great at what they do & have found favor in the publics' eye, that they are neceesrily exempt from anything because of this fact. He is going to be watched closely...

H2, cj, & RW's posts were dead on.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ June 14, 2005 09:24 AM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>

[Randy walker]

some interesting pictures.
http://anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

Again, his involvement with children in general is what concerns me as a parent. Yes, I believe there to be golddiggers going after MJ, but MJ did it to himself.
By way of a settlement in 2 previous accusations, instead of fighting he chose to pay it off and make it go away.
It seemed at that time he was guilty since investigators went as far in taking pictures of a certain area that was described in detail by the accuser. Hard to fight that one.
This could go on for days, who knows the full truth, but as a 'normal' parent, why would you put your child in that type of situation anyway.
Not me.........a photo op maybe, a signed picture and then adios, nice to meet ya, thanks for the music.